JOY A COLLURA
Jul 24, 2020
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(returned for a couple hours- 7/24/20 4:05 PM)
From IM- https://www.investigativemedia.com/please-begin-yarnell-hill-fire-chapter-xxxi-here/#comment-484188
Joy A Collura says
wtktt-
I am loading part 3
I am about to put the Minute Meetings that laid hidden all these years for the Board- that one meeting they did not want the hikers at—
I have no time to really read it because I am trying to just load the records until 9PM
but I will upload then publish it so you can see it in 10 minutes…ok
https://www.investigativemedia.com/please-begin-yarnell-hill-fire-chapter-xxxi-here/#comment-484191
WantsToKnowTheTruth says
JULY 25, 2020 AT 11:26 AMReply to Joy A Collura post on July 24, 2020 at 7:51 pm
NOTE: Second attempt to post this. First attempt went into ‘moderation’.
Having trouble again posting anything with more than 1 live link it.
>> Joy A Collura said…
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>> wtktt-
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>> I am loading part 3
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>> I am bout to put the Minute Meetings that laid hidden all
>> these years for the Board- that one meeting they did not
>> want the hikers at—
You are talking about what is half-way down at this link, right?…
h t t p s ://www.yarnellhillfirerevelations.com/post/page-3-these-are-my-city-of-prescott-public-records-requests-descending-order
The January 6, 2015 of the Yarnell Hill Memorial Site Committee/Board?
Those minutes have actually never been “hidden” at all.
Unlike many other meetings of that Board, they actually published ( publicly ) the minutes of that particular meeting in a timely way, shortly after the meeting took place.
The minutes of that January 6, 2015 meeting of the Yarnell Hill Memorial Site Board were originally published on the special website established by Arizona State Parks for this committee…
h t t p ://azstateparks.com/committees/downloads/minutes/2015/Yarnell_Minutes_Draft_01-06-15.pdf
That link is no longer valid, but the Internet Archive ( Wayback Machine ) preserved a copy of what was there and the minutes can still be publicly viewed at the following link…
h t t p s ://web.archive.org/web/20150421193123/http://azstateparks.com/committees/downloads/minutes/2015/Yarnell_Minutes_Draft_01-06-15.pdf
There was a post to Chapter 11 of this ongoing InvestigativeMEDIA forum about it when the minutes were first published…
From that posting back on January 20, 2015…
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On January 20, 2015 at 4:31 pm WantsToKnowTheTruth said…
** DRAFT MINUTES OF JAN 6, 2015 YARNELL HILL MEMORIAL BOARD MEETING
The minutes from the last Yarnell Hill Memorial Board meeting were NOT made available within 3 business days following the last meeting of this PUBLIC board ( as required by law )… but unlike the last minutes published… this time they have NOT waited until the next meeting before publishing the minutes of the previous one.
The DRAFT minutes ( complete with spelling mistakes ) of the January 6, 2015 meeting are now available online via the Arizona State Parks website.
The PDF document is here…
h t t p ://azstateparks.com/committees/downloads/minutes/2015/Yarnell_Minutes_Draft_01-06-15.pdf
Here are some things that are now clear which were NOT really made clear in any of the media articles that reported about this January 6 meeting.
1) The VOTE that was taken ( which was unanimous ) that authorizes the Arizona Parks Department to begin the due-diligence process involved with purchasing the land was NOT the ‘final vote’ about whether the Board will actually purchase the land. The due-diligence process will be reported back to this Yarnell Hill Memorial Site Board as it goes along… along with an actual dollar amount for the land they intend to purchase. Only THEN will this Board vote on whether or not to actually make the purchase.
From the January 6, 2015 meeting ‘draft’ minutes…
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State Representative (Karen) Fann wanted to refocus a moment on sole purpose and intent of bill was to preserve the site and keep it from being developed. It may be that the board opts to only purchases the site and not even build a memorial or just erecting a single cross. The number one purpose was to preserve the site. Mr. Martyn agreed that that is the committee’s number one priority—to preserve the land.
Miss Nelson asked if that was what was just voted on.Mr. Martyn replied that the committee decided that State Parks should handle due dilligence of the process and that the vote for the actual purchase will be brought back to the committee once we are given a dollar amount.
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2) An ‘access’ sub-committee WAS officially formed at this meeting… and Board Director Martyn did put out a call to the PUBLIC hoping that ANYONE who has ANY ‘knowledge or expertise’ of the local area would volunteer to serve on this PUBLIC sub-committee.
From the January 6, 2015 meeting ‘draft’ minutes…
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3. Access and right of ways to the Yarnell Hill Memorial Site – Discussion of motorized, non-motorized access, parking, trail or road size and distance, feasibility, cost, eminent domain and consideration for adjacent land owners and whether to form a sub-committee.
Mr. Martyn stated that in addition to preserving the site the Board must decide on access options to get to the site. This sub-committee will research the potential to access the site and recommends they work closely with State Trust Land Department and local property owners such as Mr. Rex Maughan and the local community.
Mr. Martyn asked the Board members to volunteer to serve on the access subcommittee. Chief Ben Palm volunteered as well as Ms. Lenora Nelson.Mr. Martyn asked for PUBLIC involvement for ANYONE that has knowledge or expertise in this area.
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This was also the meeting where the widow of Eric Marsh, Amanda Marsh ( who was actually ON the Board itself ) volunteered to be on the newly-established Yarnell Memorial Site Fundraising Committee, since ( as State Rep Karen Fann pointed out in the meeting ) there were NO FUNDS ALLOCATED by Fann’s bill for ANY kind of ‘memorial’. Karen Fann’s bill that passed in the Arizona State Legislature was ONLY allocating money to BUY THE LAND and lock down access to it. That was all the bill was for. Any ‘memorials’ erected there would have to be funded by donations.
This was also the meeting where the mother of deceased Hotshot Andrew Ashcraft ( Deborah Pfingston ) spoke to the committee during the public comment session and said she wants to see 19 full-size BRONZE STATUES erected on the site once the land is purchased.
Pfingston’s public comments about what she wanted to see erected at the site earned her an invitation from committee chairman Bruan Martin, right then and there, to be on the sub-committee that was going to decide what ( if anything ) would eventually be ‘erected’ at the site if/when the land was purchased by the state.
Pfingston accepted, and she remained an integral part of the design-making decisions for the memorial site.
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** AARON GREEN WAS AT THAT MEETING
One of the interesting things about these ‘minutes’ is that Aaron Green was actually there and was, at that time, the ACTING ‘Arizona State Forester’, since Scott Hunt had retired and Jeff Whitney wasn’t appointed State Forester yet.
From the top of the meeting minutes…
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MINUTES OF THE MEETING YARNELL HILL MEMORIAL SITE BOARD
January 6, 2015
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 3:02 PM, Tuesday, January 6, 2015 at the Yavapai County Board of Supervisors’ Hearing Room, First Floor Yavapai County Administrative Services Building 1015 Fair Street, Prescott, Arizona
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Board Members Present
Bryan Martyn, Chairman;
Representative Karen Fann;
Senator Steve Pierce;
Dan Fraijo;
Aaron Green;
Amanda Marsh;
Lenora Nelson;
Rowle Simmons;
Chuck Tidey;
Darrell Willis
Board Members Absent
Mayor Marlin Kuykendall;
John Flynn;
Glen Hopkinson;
Brendan McDonough;
Ben Palm
Attorney General’s Office
Brian Luse, Assistant Attorney General
A. INTRODUCTIONS OF BOARD MEMBERS
Each Board Member introduced themselves to the public and stated how they came to be a member of the Yarnell Hill Memorial Site Board.Chairman Martyn stated that Mr. Scott Hunt, Former State Forester has retired and Aaron Green will be the State Forester designee.
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Yes… this is the same Aaron Green who we have just recently learned was the ‘GPS Expert’ designated by Arizona Forestry to accompany YCSO Detective J. McDormett to the YCSO evidence storage room on July 22, 2014, to ( apparently ) perform the very FIRST examination of ALL ( SEVEN ) Granite Mountain GPS units, more than a YEAR after the original tragedy.
So circa July, 2014, when the Arizona State Attorney General’s office was working with Yarnell OPS 2 Paul Musser to help build their defense against the wrongful death lawsuits… and the attorneys for Arizona Forestry apparently didn’t believe Mike Duldey when he told Musser no data was recovered from any GM GPS Unit… Aaron Green’s name didn’t just fall out of a hat. He had already been the transitional Arizona State Forester between Scott Hunt and Jeff Whitney.
You. Just. Can’t. Make. This. Stuff. Up.
( paused - published - 7/24/20 8:12 PM)
( paused - published - 7/24/20 9:40 PM- Good night)
Russ Shumate Interview 10-18-13.pdf:
(pause to have toast- 5:32PM)
Russ Shumate Interview 8-15-13.pdf:
thank you so much to my friend, Kayiden, for making my Summer 2020- I am watching Jesse now :)
I needed that kind of sharing...
ShumateSAIRInterview.pdf:
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