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Why were some Wildland Fire Instructors/Evaluators never properly interviewed for the Reports?


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Why were some of Eric Shane Marsh / Jesse James Steed's Wildland Fire Instructors / Evaluators never properly / never interviewed for the SAIT-SAIR / ADOSH investigation reports when I have these voluminous files under SAIT SAIR / ADOSH files from Arizona State Forestry Public Records Request?


We are speaking of facilitators and evaluators of the training that led to the leadership positions of these two leaders who died in a historically significant Wildland Fire.


I believe there should have been more interviews and in-depth interview questions to shed light because some of his Wildland Fire Instructors / Wildland Fire Evaluators were on the Yarnell Hill Fire 2013.


Why is/was it so many are at ease to leave the facts as it happened

June 30, 2013, back channel versus doing their part to connect truths for the Public at Large and they are okay with allowing others to believe narratives?


And why don't Y O U speak up and share your accounts purely as it happened?


I have and I was the eyewitness who was up on the Weaver Mountains with the GMIHC / GMHS June 30, 2013, and I am alive.


Why are you comfortable to allow a housewife hiker give this "Public Notification" that this is "whistleblowing phase" for me so would you rather tell it first-hand versus me in documentation in 2022?


You know it will be much better for us to handle it if Y O U had the courage to do it yourelf(ves) versus me doing it -


Do you need a safe environment to do that? Do you want to share back channel the best way to get your story out?


It will be harder to share once my documentation is to the front because you will be at the front. I have given enough notice and I am doing this all legally and still will place a possible legal notification before it is out to give everyone one last opportunity to do the difficult right thing.


 

In loving memory of Eric Shane Marsh and Jesse James Steed.


We are unable to bring the men back or even those we lost locally since, but we can make sure we analyze all leadership positions including theirs to see what happened --- was it in this area we even need to look ???


Human Factors. --- ???


Should we check these areas and make sure to do our part to cross the t's and dot the i's to help lessen Wildland Firefighter Fatalities?


These are snippets of Eric's records-

(locked on invite only in 2019 to keep track who is looking at his file)

Shows only his cover page here .






Currently, I am working on a different PC so right now I am unable to log in and give people permission to Eric's profile until I remember my Gmail I used and the password and back on proper PC.


In 2019, I had a list of folks who has reviewed this specific file of Eric's already. I will in 2022 do my best to get on there to show his profile's instructors and evaluators so for this post we will focus to the other leader's instructors and evaluators. I made Eric's profile long ago by invite only because of his parents. I wanted to have full control who wanted his records and why --- I always enjoyed my time/visits with Eric's parents (RiP to Eric's Mom in 2021)


These are snippets of some of Jesse James Steed's records-


What I pay attention to was who was his instructors / evaluators that

also was on the Yarnell Hill Fire 2013 and delve into their Interviews or lack of ... you know what I am saying ... when I get to the actual documents of omissions then this post will at a later time make more sense ... for now the snippets of one of our 19 heroes I mentioned above, Jesse Steed:




These below certifications can now squash Academies, Conferences and local rumors to show you Jesse's qualifications versus horseshit fed out there that I have heard for years --- Jesse's documentation:

The file fell out and papers were all out of order so I did my best to upload in order but may have a few not as you read below- I left out payroll, life insurance and administration stuff and felt keep just to the evaluations, certifications, and qualifications where the names of the instructors and evaluators were.




















the above is a perfect example that lacks what Academy, and can you make sense of that signature? Should have the instructors name printed underneath and their title. Just saying.


Jeff who??? on above certification

Cook who above ??? ---wish they were told to print and signature for these reasons---as one is preserving Historically- Significant Fires makes it easier for documentation research.















Robert who? (above)












I wonder if I should go look at others' profiles and see if they signed the same "Oath of Office"- if so, then 2022 may get more interesting for some when more is placed out to the Public at Large...maybe some should re-read the below documents---that may drive them to speak up, huh.



















































































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In closing- this post will matter more when more areas become Public-


good night. 4-4-22 11:33pm.


 





 



 















 


 

Remember, this shifted long ago to this being about just the 19--- this had to do with losing one third of our communities since YHF 2013, this had to do with the mental health for those still alive of those hanging on to what happened that weekend and their concerns to possible monetary and possible legal issues that can be tied up in the court system for decades, this had to do with retardant dropped on "live" fire, etc.


I have been very sad since I found the evidence 12-31-21 12:50am ...I feel like a car with no brakes trying to find the best way to let folks know before it comes out for the Public at Large so going, going, going all while unwell.


I finally just envisioned "water" and how it runs through the creeks, oceans, pools, etc ...how easily it just runs...sure there are barriers along the way for the water but to go through this all I just imagine that water flowing and keeps on going.


I can never bring life back the way it was, but I can do my best to

connect truths and give the living a safe place to share -- to be ourselves - if I were to share everything that I sponged since 2013 - I know Fernanda Santos on how she described that book she was doing on Yarnell and the GMIHC - I can guarantee no book or movie could do it justice than just being in the moment and being present as I have shown and others have shown to me.


I am that water scenario and I let life happen and follow the flow even though vanity kicks in and wants to fight it because of my edema /being unwell for so long and I want to crawl in a deep dark hole.


I find myself having to stop allowing / ignore / refrain from listening to others to think they can say I am insecure in their opinion or whatever it is that does not match up to me or the shit they do so freely thinking I want any part of it or because of my energy they would love to be with me.


I am with the person I love --- he has been my rock since 88'- dated 91'- married 93' - worked - "froze up" on a 1990's tragedy became the "housewife hiker" with serious health matters that I grew tired of being ill

- really tired of it - and was unfrozen in 2021 for an isolated moment and now just doing my best to get the evidence out.


I truly am appreciative to 2021 and a certain person. I learned a lot what can happen during a brain detox phase. It was scary some parts to 2021 because I had zero clue if I was going to pull through.


I am not pleased with our current schedules we both have on our plate. It is what it is.


There is a loved one of the GMHS who I would do my best and drop what I got going on to be present if ever needed and the whole Crew at Wildland Firefighter Foundation- I would do the same.


They changed my life, Betty and Burk. I really think highly of the two of them. The whole crew really.


I will say privately and or publicly the same though --- until the day I pass on my focuses are Wildland Firefighter Foundation as well as Forum | Project 10 & 18 (project10n18.org) / and observing each Fire Seasons Forensic Fire Weather and its everchanging ways- Local Wildfire Incident Dashboard for Flagstaff, Arizona | Fire, Weather & Avalanche Center (fireweatheravalanche.org) / helping bring documents to the front / sharing to John Dougherty and Scottie Briggs and doing my part to share them to you all.


I hope these documents helped squash rumors and as the year unfolds if you want to learn back channel - in person only and to limited folks - reach out to me. Just note I am doing my best to get it public as soon as possible.



Why was the last conference I, Joy A Collura, was at, deeply traumatic for me? (yarnellhillfirerevelations.com) pssss....listen...firmly I state when a man is not even properly interviewed and was on that Yarnell fire ... use to be CDF ... pssssst ....I am questioning the entire folks who were placed on this deadline to get the Investigation Reports out ... Musser, you can get this that you could have done this possibly a hundred times before but you never did it with the squirrely winds and ways of the Weaver Mountains and those upslope chutes and chimneys and downslopes ...admit you possibly failed once and for all and in that failure we saw ... ??? Come on. You will HEAL so many by admitting such, sir. I am tired of your friends telling your story like it is okay--- it is not okay --- speak up.



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