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What does InvestigativeMEDIA mean to Joy A. Collura? Why did she first venture to IM Chapter One? P2

What does InvestigativeMEDIA mean to Joy A. Collura? Why did she first venture to IM Chapter One? Part Two


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what is interesting about this video - it was the way I wanted to go out June 30, 2013 except when the video ends curving to the Helms- I wanted to go straight to the car - the old burro trail that leads out to McCrary's place

I will Google Earth it for you the way I wanted to go out June 30, 2013 due to extreme heat but both Sonny and Dr Ted Putnam stated that would have been a worse "funneling" like a chimney (too narrow) and so I never talked about it much after they both said that on a hike.


here is the way I wanted to go from when I was sitting above the Helms on the two track ridge which is near what is now called the Observation Deck of the GMHS Memorial Trail:


5, 6, & 7. These comments were made with us both at the Yarnell Library sitting there typing together.


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Joy A Collura and Tex (Sonny) Harold Eldon Gilligan says

DECEMBER 2, 2013 AT 3:01 PM

can anyone tell me because there is sun on my laptop-“glare” 24seconds mark of 2min24seconds—where is this photo in Yarnell taken at??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIiy354r0a0

As you can see, this video above is no longer and I do not know what video was here.

Joy A Collura and Tex (Sonny) Harold Eldon Gilligan says

DECEMBER 2, 2013 AT 2:39 PM

We were out on Black Friday—not my normal style—we were looking for game trail deals and such. When we were sitting in traffic waiting than waiting in long lines almost like when one visits an amusement park ride line; dragged out long lines everywhere. Than I thought how Thanksgiving went- waiting for the yummy food to be done and gathering around with loved ones waiting to eat that traditional meal. With Christmas ahead and the waiting to open a gift—all this “waiting” reminded me of things outside the Holiday traditions and that is waiting for someone’s next interview where they say “you remember that report for Yarnell Hill Fire we put out and I kept sticking up for it—-I am now ready to share and admit it was due to my professional position that I stated that publicly a lot—I felt if you all heard it again from me you would believe it or maybe I would start believing it if I kept saying it. I know you all waited in silence as the world rushed by waiting for me to say here I am—I am now ready to go beyond my profession…beyond my position…and give you the details that lacked in the report because I know every bit of information is needed in hopes to never have this happen again. I had experts work on this report so I felt it was done sufficient. Yet I will tell you now I really could not sleep at night with ease knowing nineteen men died and I had more information to share to the report but I had to figure out how to piece the report together to avoid ligations and such.” (maybe see this interview will come out this Holiday Season or I was dreaming myself or I was doing one of those “what if” moments I see on this comment area to guess what happened and how a man sleeps at night.) EVERYONE- We hope you have a warm and loving Holiday Season—maybe this Holiday Season will bring much grace and blessings that we see publicly more details unfold to this tragic weekend where nineteen men died and a community that was affected by it. We toast our glasses to you all— “Salute- may the truth prevail…may one who walks with integrity keep honoring God and may He guide your path with a clear direction.”

Joy A Collura and Tex (Sonny) Harold Eldon Gilligan says

DECEMBER 1, 2013 AT 12:26 PM

Buford of Yarnell states the man Jim next to Helm’s saw Brendan drive out and that is not off the Shrine area but over near Sesame area—he stated the look Brendan had is worth you all reaching Jim to go over his testimony of that moment. [emphasis added]

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Now that I covered in Chapter One all areas tied to my name ( JOY A COLLURA / JOY COLLURA ) - time to take the time out to snippet any areas I feel should be "remembered" in case InvestigativeMEDIA every had any moment of "pause" - we have these posts of me, the Yarnell Hill Fire Eyewitness, went back to check all links and share what ones that are now gone- what was it if I know ...


https://www.investigativemedia.com/yarnell-hill-fire-investigation-ignored-major-mistakes-by-the-state



https://youtu.be/kSQdVAAIlYI America Burning: The Yarnell Hill Tragedy

 

November 3, 2021 1:47pm: I want to continue to state for the record that John Dougherty's website may it use to have a "donation" page to keep it flowing and going has never been made to make a profit like you seen other media and authors ... and it will be nine years come next June 30, 2013 and he kept the site up which have important takeaways not found anywhere else except a few inserts in some "made-for-profit" books on YHF. I donated financially over time to help keep the site going.


I want to say a "special" thank you to John Dougherty for "staying with it" all these years even if you ventured off to other professional areas you still gave the World a "free" place to share and care on your site.


Wants To Know The Truth is one of the top assets and "take-aways" for me from the first Chapter on IM yet so are Gary L. Olson, Robert Powers, Robert The Second - Fred J Schoeffler, Tex Harold Eldon Gilligan (Sonny) (Charlie), Rocksteady, The Truth Will Always Remain Elusive, Mike, J. Stout, NV, JTW, WFF, Nick Sundt, Fyrestorm, Rod Wrench, Christina Nealson, Calvin, Yavapai County Resident as well as those who participated who I am left puzzled about all these years later: Dave, Elizabeth Nowicki, Barbara Warren


It is not free to have these sites running all these years even Fred J Schoeffler when he does the blog knows just that. He knows the only way to get me to participate was to come to an unagreeable agreeable agreement. It exists as odd as it sounds yet the Buster Benson book has helped us for the most part.


The Yarnell Hill Fire Revelations was born Summer 2018. Yet my blog contributors does not always have full access because of limitations set by me. I feel after all the hours I invested in it, I really am uncomfortable with anyone outside just me able to access the site because I end up fixing the glitches most of the times when I allow another on here. One time (Sept 2019) we hired Cody to fix glitches and he is building the "10 & 18" site currently. Fred tries to assist when able those glitches.


We all have our roles in the aftermath of the YHF but none of us tied to John Dougherty's InvestigativeMEDIA (IM) long term participants were there to make a profit or agendas except there was some short term folks there that were questionable and we all know that IM's participants-Holly Neill and her friend Fire 20+ Deanna Thompson have been tied to helping out in a research style yet still Holly has a tie to a "made for profit" book with John N MacLean.

 

In order, on all of IM who were the firsts on all articles collectively:

Fred J. Schoeffler was the first on July 30, 2013. I, Joy A Collura, was eighth on November 18, 2013.





My takeaways I want to remember from Chapter One from each participant of this chapter:


https://www.investigativemedia.com/yarnell-hill-fire-investigation-ignored-major-mistakes-by-the-state


In chronological order of who first began on Chapter One-

Article made October 17, 2013:

First Few Days - Who were the first dozen t o Post:


1. Barbara Warren (The Chapter Coordinator of https://arizona.psr.org/- MD, MPH email: bwarre01@gmail.com )

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2. NV

NV, no one knew about Chief Koile until after the fire and all that history.





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3. Robert (Bob) Powers (still a semi active person to IM- I believe his last public comment was May 2019 on IM but occasionally keeps in touch with IM participants back channel - he was a former USFS Oak Grove Hot Shot Foreman who lost his Father in the July 1953 Rattlesnake Fire (CA). His first comment was on IM September 2, 2013 posted on the Ten Standard Fire Orders.)

Update: Date: Monday, November 8th, 2021 at 7:12 PM

Robert (Bob) Powers came to IM because of the loss of 19 Fire Fighters who were Hot Shots. He wanted to learn more about the disaster. Mr. Powers did not know about the site until the day he got on it - internet search for the Yarnell Fire.


He does occasionally check in to see any new posts - appx. every month. There were a lot of good people that put a lot of info into the Blog he said. Research and some great pictures were presented. He was able to get in touch with an old friend and he met some new ones.


Robert (Bob) Powers grew up in the Forest Service from the time he was five ( 5 ) years old -

  1. New Mexico in 1949 to Calif. that same year Greenville Plumas NF, to the Mendocino NF.

  2. 1953 his Dad was killed. He went back to Oklahoma and then back to California.

  3. Sequoia NF Pinehurst RS 1954 to 1961.

  4. To Springville Calif. Sequoia NF Worked the summer at age 17 for CDF Engine Crew.

  5. 1962 and 1963 Summer for Kernville Sequoia NF FF.

  6. 1964 started his career as a Fire prevention Tech. GS4 Fulltime Kernville.

  7. May 1965 Engine Foreman GS 5 Kernville Transferred to the Angeles NF Arroyo Seco Dist.

  8. May 1967 Fire Prevention to 1972 Oak Grove Hot Shots.

  9. 1974- Six Rivers- River Dist. as a Asst. Dist. FMO GS 7, to The Supervisors office as the Asst. Disp. GS7. Transferred to the Sawtooth NF R4 GS 9 Supervisory Dispatcher/ Asst. Forest FMO

  10. 1976. Retired there after a great career in 1994/ Type 2 Fire Boss, Type 2 Line boss and Air attack, Crew boss, Sector Boss and Division Boss Firing Boss on his way up the Ladder.

Robert (Bob) Powers trained Hundreds of FFs on the 10 and 13-18.


Robert (Bob) Powers was never trapped, burned over or deployed a Fire shelter in all those years.


Yes, he went on fires during his positions in the Supervisors office, Line assignments and Air Attack. That's his Bio With a lot not said in between.

Fire Fighting is a Hazardous Job. Fire Fighters and Civilians alike are affected in many ways to hazards--Smoke, chemicals and flame. Safety Rules kept him and 1000s of others safe.






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4. Nick Sundt ( U.S. Forest Service Seasonal Firefighter (unknown years and unknown Crew but online states:) Hotshot, Helitack, Smokejumper, Government Accountability Project Senior Fellow, World Wildlife Fund Director, Climate Change Science and Policy Integration, World Wildlife Fund Communications Director for Climate Change, U.S. Global Change Research Program Communications Director, University Maryland Center for Global Change (College Park, MD0; & Pacific Institute (Oakland, CA)d Editor, Global Change, Global Change Editor, Cutter Information Corp Editor of newsletter: "Energy, Economics and Climate Change", Congressional Office of Technology Assessment Analyst, Attendance Dates - Jan 1, 1977 - Dec 31, 1980 Qualification Type Master of Arts (M.A.), Energy and Resources-University of California, Berkeley, Attendance Dates - Jan 1, 1972 - Dec 31, 1980 - Qualification Type Bachelor of Science (BS), Conservation and Resource Studies- University of California, Berkeley, Attendance Dates -Jan 1, 1970 - Dec 31, 1972 -Qualification Type High school diploma -Frankfurt American High School (Germany) - from Washington Dc, District Of Columbia )

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5. Rocksteady

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6. Elizabeth - this comment does not identify at this point if this is E. Nowicki just "Elizabeth"

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7. J. Stout

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I am sorry this was never directly answered by anyone. I hope since, you got your answer. I can state in all my public records I still have not come across any documents to show you the answer and I own the entire profile on Eric Shane Marsh.

8. WFF