During our current time of uncertainties, is it still proper to say "Happy Holidays"?
I would like you to know that I am still here ... getting better day by day ... slowly. I gave the same number of life-saving cells as I would during four whole blood donations and I am having a tough recovery.
Happy Holidays to all-
I have been on "pause" here but I am always behind the scenes doing my best to gather as much as I can on the Yarnell Hill Fire from so many areas so you kids that were kids seven years ago - when you get to the age of inquiring ... you know someone out there is not playing the Shepherd's role alone without sharing exactly all from June 30, 2013...like you see here (below) where on this video where the Yarnell Hill Fire Survivor claims he is a Sheepherder with his flock:
Tori Townley - SERVE Day - Met Donut through the Dream Center Network -
How the Lone Surviving Hero of Yarnell Hills Fire is Helping People Overcome Addiction &Find Purpose - 20 views •Nov 23, 2020
When the host, Tori Townley, asks Lone Survivor Brendan McDonough (Donut) what is his coffee of choice and he replies "I think any cup to be honest"...
(Lukewarm, Stale, Extra Creamer "the go to" coffee for Donut)
Joy: "I feel that it can be a cautionary tool when the words 'to be honest' are one of the first words muttered out of one's mouth. I have seen much of the younger generation use it without much thought what they are even speaking...
God guides us, Donut - true - yet without you giving it all in a righteous way then how can you have a heart of servitude?
I would have to fact check and verify to people in his immediate areas to make a proper assessment on this 'Good Shepherd' topic. I did on Tuesday, December 15, 2020, 4:09 PM try to reach someone to just get clarity because the sincerity seems genuine in the videos. Right?!
Well, maybe we will see more stale coffee lovers from watching this over hour video. I want to share in the excitement with Tori - just awaiting more information from folks who I know who know him."
Co-Author(s): "When someone prefaces their answer with 'to be honest' that should be a major "watch out" for lack of honesty. McDid-Not is a Millennial. However, he comfortably uses the phrase 'to be honest' within 1 minute 7 seconds and he says 'honestly', 11min 21 seconds into the video above."
"To Be Honest, or Not To Be Honest?
That is the question. The phrase to be honest is meant to signify the fact that the speaker is talking frankly. But it’s an odd phrase because it implies that the speaker isn’t being honest the rest of the time.
... The use of the expression may even be a generational thing. It turns out that “to be honest” is a phrase that Millennials often use ..." (Janice Mars, Principal and Founder of SalesLatitude)
"https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303802904579332751950927282"(Elizabeth Bernstein at Elizabeth.Bernstein@wsj.com)
Donut says "When that tragedy had happened ... it all happened within the blink of an eye." ...
Co-Author(s): "At 43:30, McDid-Not says 'my brothers laid down their life (sic) for others...' On the contrary, their lives were taken from them as the result of poor leadership. No GMHS willingly laid down there lives that day."
Kids, there is someone who cares and someone who knows... More than just me too ... God indeed has the perfect plan ... yet I will keep on as one of the Truth Tellers along with all the co-authors here on this blog. I will keep sharing the documents. I will keep making sure you kids know I am sorry every Holiday your Dad is not with us here but we will remember them by getting as much as able to obtain or all the documents to the forefront, even the deep dark shadowed areas so the truths are told about the fire I eye-witnessed; the Yarnell Hill Fire 2013 and Tenderfoot Fire 2016.
Here are more videos from the self proclaimed Sheepherder in recent times:
Joy: 3:16/39:44,3:20/39:44,3:22/39:44,,3:24/39:44, where are the fire behavior sources contained within this video? I emailed Sunday, November 15, 2020 7:08 PM the Church and the YouTube Creator of the video and they never replied to my inquiries to the sources.
Again another sincere presentation. I just need to find someone who knows his immediate life to tell me 'this is for reals, Joy.'
Joy: I really wanted my co-authors to sit down with me and watch the videos. My hope was to soften their hearts towards Donut to stop labeling him McDid-Not and see him "today" for how God is working with him- yet without more information and knowing what some of us know it is difficult to have the complete faith in this transformation. 39:05 you mention vulnerability and conversations. I guess I am still waiting for ours vs. telling me 'it is your job now'-
Co-Author(s): 'Your friends are going to be there for you' Donut claims yet I say you can always count on Jesus and the Holy Spirit - a true friend.
Joy: 6:43 into the video, Donut is asked if he fought the YHF with 19 others. I am like what about all the hundreds of WFs / FFs / others that were there that day? Just saying.
Co-Author(s): Also, you fail to tell they were in a safe area and they were in the safest spot and had the best view of the fire (except for air attack) while sitting 'in the safe black.' What compelled them to leave the safe black?
Joy:
Co-Author(s): The underwear model attempted joke was inappropriate and out of place and detracted from your message.
Joy: I really enjoyed their closing video to REDO on marriage - very organic and "genuine":
https://the-courage-to-change-a-recovery-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/brendan-mcdonough-FTh0xg1k
Some day maybe he will state the whole Yarnell Hill Fire stuff that City of Prescott Attorney, Jon Paladini, was to get wind of then ??? versus what he shared to WildfireToday - Bill Gabbert and that story he did on Donut.
Too many unanswered questions for me when it comes to June 30th, 2013 and I am one of the eyewitnesses that was up on the Weavers, so that has to account for something, right - being with the Granite Mountain Hotshots on the Weavers and yet I am still alive and I am the eye witness to that weekend? Hmmm.
I am really pleased he is sharing the Word and Jesus to many...yet sad not all has been spoken on specific much needed areas. Maybe a form of survival?
Remember, sir, not all the records I pulled are here on the blog yet and public to the World. There is a real piece of information that I choose another path to make it come public versus here. When that comes out, you may be seen in a new way, just saying. I gave many the time to be upfront and honest to us all. I told the ones to "Speak Up" ... so I hope you do the difficult right thing this Holiday Season and do just that speak what you know in purity for that June 30, 2013, horrific day.
Are you the same Donut who was "dunked" (baptized) in the Holy Spirit - if so, then share the rest to all of us.
I forgive you for all those areas that you fail to reveal about June 30, 2013.
Unforgiveness is a bad layer to have in your life. Right TJS. I could share for awhile certain folks who harshly mislabel me to this day yet met me just a few times or not at all. That is dangerous. I am not at all judging you, Donut.
However, like I said September 28, 2019, at the CARExpo - at some point you will have to do the difficult right thing and no it is not laid just upon me and others as you might think. True Christian Faith is sharing and in that it shows at times much humility.
https://www.unitedtalent.com/speaker/brendan-mcdonough/
That's ok. I been there. I one year had to try and explain why I do what I am doing to a woman's deaf ears. She was just locked that I am a married women; end of story. She was so locked into that she spread the fabrications hard core to try to orchestrate an end to our blog path. I even in 2020 "paused" many areas in hopes she would come around. Nope. She instead made someone choose. It was hard but God's path is the path we all should be focused on. Sure there will be people you clash with time to time or some seems all the time yet we are all here to do our part to help lessen Wildland Fire Fatalities.
Have a safe and the 'best that you are able' Holiday Season-
You are in my thoughts and prayers.
For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. Luke 8:17 KJV
My CT Scan is coming up...I will know more soon.
I misplaced my paperwork and id - so my ct scan was cancelled. I have to redo that soon. It was scheduled for December 18th, 2020.
Remember what we all learned in 2020 here on the Yarnell Hill Fire Revelations ( YHFR ) blog -
the GMHS GPS Units -
Who had the knowledge of them? Who inventoried them? And why weren't the GPS Units reviewed during both Investigations thoroughly?
I was direct when I learned about the information, I called the Garmin GPS Tech and Manufacturer - Thursday, July 16, 2020, 11:23:00 AM - even during the delays due to COVID 19 Phase I kept at it and the replies I got was that they "still" can pull the data all these years later.
I alerted some of the GMHS loved ones in hopes they would follow through. I have not yet heard if they did just that or any new updates. I just want it noted I did such actions. Anyone who knows when calling Garmin GPS, it was a circling of many recorded messages taking forever to get a "live" person.
Thursday, July 16, 2020, 11:43:04 AM, I was on the phone and I left my number for a call back.
Thursday, July 16, 2020, 12:19:56 PM, CJ from Garmin GPS called me back.
GARMIN GPS CJ: "Thank you for calling Garmin Outdoor Wearables. This is CJ. How can I help you out today?"
Joy A. Collura: "Hey CJ. This is Joy A. Collura. I have a question. If a Garmin Unit is kinda damaged ... Can it still be traced on the online if you had an online account? ... So say the SD Card is removed ... it was damaged ... if I had an account online ... wouldn't it still be traceable "that" way? ... and how far back?" [emphasize added in bold]
GARMIN GPS CJ: "What kind of Garmin are you talking about? If you don't mind me asking."
Joy A. Collura: I don't exactly know but mine was stolen on the aftermath of the fire but I am more referring to the Units recovered and stored that belonged to the GMHS that were on the Weavers that day with me June 30, 2013. Either of ours.
GARMIN GPS CJ: "Ok ( a second pause )... um ... I mean, so we don't have like a way to track a unit...at least to my knowledge...depends on what department you might want to ...but like...a wa.. or something... we don't have a way like to track lost or stolen devices or anything like that.
Joy A. Collura: Yes, but what if you have an online account and you track your stuff there? Like mine, I use to connect mine to my hiking adventures to my hiking page. I use to keep my trips online. And so if it is online, how far back can you track your data? Can I go back now and retrieve my stuff from 2013?
GARMIN GPS CJ: "Yeah, I mean, if you just log into your account, you should be able to recover that data."
Joy A. Collura: Okay. That's what I thought. Someone told me if it was destroyed or stolen- it's gone...and I added in to their talk that I don't want anyone to pay attention to that "destroyed" or "stolen" lingo- I want them to realize if the person has a log in account than the information still exists...
GARMIN GPS CJ: "Right. Yeah, it's just your old data. You can go back and look at your old data. Alright, are you sure you don't have any more questions while you have me?"
Joy A. Collura: No. You answered a big question. I feel if a GPS Garmin Unit is damaged or the SD card was removed, stolen and or missing, there is still a paper trail if the person had an online Garmin account. I feel the fact that the Prescott FD inventoried and these items along with others sat in the YCSO evidence storage unit appx almost one year and two Investigations were done without these items and I believe at least one person mentioned the GMHS had GPS units in some media or investigation interview but it seem to never be seriously addressed that I can see now that it still has "hope" to be addressed if a person can simply log in to an account to retrieve old data if they had an online account... I will always be disappointed in the person who claims he reviewed the Units in 2014 and never went as far as I just did to see then getting it public then maybe a family member / Power of Attorney person could log in or something to ensure every rock was turned. I also will forever be disappointed a specific widow and mother are in email threads and knew about these GPS Units and did not do their very best to publicly to make sure all the data was pulled when nineteen men died and we saw the kind of loss on the aftermath of the YHF. [emphasize added in bold]
GARMIN GPS CJ: "Alright, thank you for being a Garmin Customer. You take care."
Call Ended.
Yes, you had the sole survivor of the GMHS, Brendan McDonough, and as well, there are certain GMHS loved ones who have /have had very powerful Political people as their advocates and I will strongly state those people disappoint me for not trying to push this to the Public even stronger versus some glorified Hollywood film we got as I read that email thread and I plan to ensure that information is made public in a very special way.
God indeed has the Perfect Plan.
Also REMEMBER, InvestigativeMEDIA wrote about this years ago, I just pointed the specifics out more and email threads on the blog in 2020 yet let me always give credit where it is due:
WTKTT writing below was in reply to Holly Neill's IM Comment:
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...read the comment link to read the entire comment.
Social Media post from The Eric Marsh Foundation (EMF) for Wildland Firefighters - dated December 8, 2020 8:47AM:
I think the calls to me, the text messages and email messages I got on the above EMF Facebook post are that there are those of us who feel horrible that a person could pretend to be a "loved one" yet without more information on this allegation of someone being fraudulent - we cannot make our own proper assessment. Too vague. Name the person. If someone is truly fraudulently claiming to be a family member and doing this, then name them publicly or give me the name and I will right here for you. Report them to the authorities and to Facebook.
I want for the public record that I know some of you thought in some way the EMF posts were hidden messages made for me. I have not even worked on my blog. I have been ill. Away from computer. EMF has to be referring to a whole separate area.
Plus, in 2020, the documents provided for sure takes me fully out of any 'Conspiracy Theorist' category. I am the one who keeps sharing along with my co-authors; when I am able, the documents so you can make your own assessment(s).
Now for this next post (below), let me break it down simple. No one has any legal right to "control" the Wildland Fire Fatalities Education or our experiences on the Yarnell Hill Fire (2013) and where/when/how it can be discussed.
Many homeowners made a book telling their stories. They have that right to share their weekend losses.
Some will be in a forthcoming Yarnell Hill Fire documentary. They all have that right to have their voices heard.
We, the people, who have had our health taxed after the Yarnell Hill Fire who have been to "how many" (countless) funerals since then - way past nineteen deaths - we have that right to tell the people our stories.
Then there are the Yarnell Hikers (yep, me and Tex) from early on who participated in the ongoing InvestigativeMedia blog comment wall,
And then afterwards there are those who were the "Shadows" of the Yarnell Hill Fire and these very connected Wildland Firefighting Leaders came to me - one of the Yarnell Hill Fire eyewitnesses - and stated that all I gathered and documented was a "goldmine" of Yarnell Hill Fire information.
I am never doing a made for profit book or movie but I will do my best always and in all ways to share my eyewitness account right here on the blog getting out the documents so the World can make their own assessments.
I refuse to control you the people in what to feel or think.
I will give you the information on this blog.
I will refrain from pointing fingers and say you are prohibited/forbidden to speak because it must be in a classroom; and this only belongs in a class setting as you will read below.
We all should be free to "speak up" and "speak out" and that will always be where I stand as a Truth Teller.
Look at the encased EMF comment (below) then I will share:
My replies are in "red bold" below and my co-author(s) are in "green bold" below ... I took the Facebook comment (above) and I am going to give our feedback (below) next to Eric Marsh Foundation's (EMF) Facebook Post.
I do this because I want every person to hold "zero" fear to express your experiences, no matter if you were directly tied to the Yarnell Hill Fire (YHF) (weekend of June 28-30, 2013, and ESPECIALLY the fateful day of June 30th, 2013 YHF) and you were there like me - the Yarnell Hill Fire eyewitness - or at a Colorado Wildfire first learning about it by Twitter tweets.
We all Matter! We all should feel "okay" to share our experiences...
EMF: I love talking about the boys.
Joy: I never "knew" the GMHS until that fateful day, June 30, 2013.
I did have Eric Shane Marsh open a door for me when I was employed in Chino Valley, Arizona because I had two disabled Adults clung to my side and arms long before Yarnell Hill Fire and he saw the struggle that happened and he said it took a special kind of person to do what I was doing and he thanked me. That was my only time with the men before Yarnell Hill Fire 2013.
Yet, I was on the Weaver Mountains before the Granite Mountain Hotshots (GMHS) even made it up that two track ridge on June 30, 2013 to alert prospectors.
I watched the GMHS on the mountain on June 30, 2013, as I was right there up on the ridge too. I am one of two of the Yarnell Hill Fire eyewitness. I have photos. I have videos. I have my own account along with the other eyewitness, Tex Harold Eldon Gilligan (Sonny). I am qualified as the eyewitness to share freely. I also am qualified to speak in a class setting yet I prefer to speak anywhere at anytime. I refuse to be gagged from being a Truth Teller.
This is the only tragic Wildland Fire of this magnitude where the eyewitnesses are alive to tell about it. However, our eyewitness accounts does not match the SAIT - SAIR accounts. Therein lies the rub.
EMF: I love honoring them and keeping them forefront in the minds and hearts of our fire family and the public.
Joy: Agreed. Yet it has to be done in truth. I have noted too many email threads that show who knows much more about the Yarnell Hill Fire long before any family settlements were done June 2015 and what they knew and never mentioned it in their public platforms. I want it on public record for others to view and make their own assessments and I placed it here on the blog.
EMF: I appreciate that Yarnell is discussed in educational settings because Eric would want that. He would want Yarnell to be used to keep future firefighters safer.
Joy: Yarnell Hill Fire or Yarnell may be discussed in all facets not just educational settings. All areas. There are no legal restrictions to say it stays in the classroom.
EMF: He would want firefighters and other first responders participating in staff rides at the site.
Joy: As the Yarnell Hill Fire eyewitness, to this very day I sent my form to be selected to go on the Staff Ride - doesn't that make one scratch their head why I am unable over seven years later refused such as the eyewitness of THAT fire yet others are allowed? I remember when I first asked. No, Joy - it's for Wildland Firefighters only. So I took the Wildland Firefighter Course at the Arizona Wildfire and Incident Management Academy and I sent that Certification and then learned it transitioned to a Nomination Process- ???
Here I wait in limbo to be notified one way or another.
EMF: I know that’s true because Eric studied fatalities, because Eric took the boys to fatality sites like Storm King to pay respects and to learn. He told me all about it, he planned these excursions from our living room over coffee.
Joy: Then freely allow people to speak their own experiences from Yarnell versus stating it belongs with Instructors in a classroom. I personally have seen an unfortunate side when I tried to be kind at the Arizona Wildfire and Incident Management Academy when I thought we were okay based on Holly Neill's text she showed me from your number stating just that. I never expected the reaction I saw March 2019 then the Social Media unneeded aftermath.
If people reach out to me and let me know or if I see vague general concepts being put out there, I also will use my voice and show I refuse to be quieted based on another's opinions. No legal basis just perception about where / when / who can talk about Yarnell / Yarnell Hill Fire.
It's called the First Amendment.
I know there are loved ones. I have been in contact with many of them. I know the difficulties. The tender spots. Yet, I am going to 'stay the course' and do what I need to do and that is get the documents to the front.
Co-Author(s): 'I know that’s true because Eric studied fatalities, because Eric took the boys to fatality sites like Storm King to pay respects and to learn.'
Accompanied by PFD Wildland Fire BC they also commented “THIS WOULD NEVER HAPPEN TO US”
But it did.
19 GMHS died.
And we all know the fatal outcome where fourteen WFs and SMJs and Helitak were killed.
We can NEVER prevent fatalities in any work group. We can only do our best to reduce them based on compete Lessons Learned.
EMF: He taught about fatalities as a teacher at academy and in their station.
Co-Author(s): There is nothing unique about that. That is in their job description as a Supervisor.
EMF: What Eric never did was use fire fatalities to emotionally hurt anyone. What Eric never did was use social media as his platform to discuss fatalities.
Joy: Put it in the positive and share what he did do versus what he never did, please.
EMF: What Eric never did was throw conspiracy theories on social media and disparage people.
Joy: Give FULL NAMES of who you perceive to be "throwing conspiracy theories on social media and disparage people" - I would like to know who they are- Name them publicly or email me the names. Be more forthcoming with full names versus pronouns or 'this bad guy' - you are too vague.
EMF: What Eric never did was lie about who he was to try to gain credibility on social media so he could say whatever he wanted, what Eric never did was go after families of the fallen. Because Eric was a good man.
Joy: I realize the statement above was in regards to Eric Shane Marsh would never lie to gain credibility on social media so he could say whatever he wanted. However, Eric Shane Marsh in his job applications did place untruths (lies) and this link shows just that:
(screenshot because link is only for people added to view)
Any private photos in this album will remain private. Only people I share this link with will be able to view them. Please reach me to view.
Only you will be able to download these photos. I will screenshot what I wrote in profile:
EMF: Firefighters who have seen my posts of late are asking what they can do. Here is what I have come up with so far:
1. Stay away from anyone spouting Yarnell conspiracies, they are damaging to families, to the factual record, and to the legacy of GMIHC.
Co-Author(s): Conspiracies are by definition when two individuals come together to discuss doing something ILLEGAL. This was done almost daily by the SAIT and many of the SMES and others at the highest levels of the AZ State Forestry and USDA, Forest Service. There are no alleged "Conspiracy Theorists" here on this Yarnell Hill Fire Revelations blog website. We place out the information. We are Truth Tellers.
A theory is something in the future. The Yarnell Hill Fire and GMHS Fatalities is a fact and actually occurred removing it from the theory category. The topic of 'Conspiracy Theories' is a smoke and mirror / distraction.
EMF: 2. Do not use social media as your platform to discuss Yarnell. Allow fire educators in a classroom setting to present the tragedy in a non-biased, non-agenda driven way. Keep to the facts only.
Co-Author(s): We have this website titled Yarnell Hill Fire Revelations.com (www.yarnellhillfirerevelations.com) fire venue to this wildland fire tragic event and others. It is clearly an acceptable, appropriate, ethical, and legal under the First Amendment to do so. We also have tied in Social Media (Facebook) https://www.facebook.com/yarnellhillfirerevelations.
Allowing so-call fire educators in a classroom as the ONLY setting to present the tragedy in a non-biased, non-agenda driven way takes away many opportunities from those, with and without wildland fire experience and knowledge, to teach about and speak of the YH Fire and GMHS debacle.
THIS CLEARLY RESTRICTS AND VIOLATES THE FIRST AMENDMENT,
Keep to the facts only. Always do. It is the SAIT, SAIR, SMEs, and others at the highest levels that do not and will not.
EMF: 3. Remember that GMIHC families are everywhere, including on fires, including on social media. And we see and hear everything and its painful as hell and will remain that way for decades.
Co-Author(s): Your point is well taken, however, there are opposing viewpoints.
Joy: There always will be opposing viewpoints. I am the eyewitness who was never properly treated as one and then there is the sensitivities of the people who knew the men and have much need to keep it quiet.
EMF: 4. Have integrity. If I was your widow, your mom, your sister, your daughter, and folks were discussing your tragedy, how would you want that to go down?
Joy: I have integrity. I am doing the difficult right thing. How is this your tragedy and yours alone? This event has been compared to John F Kennedy shooting as well as 9 / 11. This affected millions of people.
Co-Author(s): I absolutely do have integrity Ma’am. ABSOLUTELY!
I definitely would feel comfortable discussing all this and the FACTS. It’s the human factors of one’s own decisions and behaviors that keep people alive or vault them headlong into tragedy.
EMF: We are human and we make mistakes. As Eric used to say, F*ck sorry, just change.
Co-Author(s): I agree only in part here, Change for the sake of change has little values without knowing the reasons for the tragedy, (i.e. Cause and effect). Thank you for your steadfast time Ma'am on all this. I wish you well in your endeavors. We are moving forward as Truth Tellers. You can refrain from posts like this:
